The fighting and killing in Islam
Q3. Could you also talk about the fighting and killing in Islam?
The fighting and killing in Islam. Well, let me tell you something. It is very interesting, really interesting that in the US we have a different kind of Islam. Muslim clerics in the US want to present to us a kind Islam, Islam of brotherly love, Islam of friendship. Is that the Islam in the Quran? It is not! The Quran is very explicit to tell the Muslims, "Go fight and kill." And if we see a young man, 20 years, or 18 years in Palestine, and putting a bomb around themselves, and making a suicidal bomb, and kill himself and kill some Israelis, it is not an invention of the Hamas, or the Hezboulah, or anybody. It is the Quran. The Quran says, "Go fight, fight, fight." So if we want to see fighting, and the killing, in the Quran, let us read the words of the Quran. And I will begin with the words in surat Al Anfal, that is surat 8, and verse 65, "Oh, prophet Mohammed." Listen, Allah is talking to Mohammed because this is what the Muslims believe. "Oh, prophet Mohammed. Urge the Muslims to fight." What? "Oh, prophet Mohammed. Urge the Muslims to fight?" When Jesus spoke to His disciples, He said, "Love your enemy. Pray for those who persecute you." But here, "Oh, prophet Mohammed. Urge the Muslims to fight," fighting is by inciting Muslims to fight. And then, we go to another surat, and that is in the Quran, in surat (Al Bakara, that is surat number 2, verse 216, "Jihad (this is fighting, holy fighting in Allah's name) is ordained for you, Muslims." Now, if someone will come and say that those who are fighting, Jews and Christians are fighting then because they are fanatics, they do not know Islam. No! When I went on the national TV, years ago, and I said in very plain words, "If you are a faithful Muslim, you are obliged to fight Jews and Christians, because Jihad, the holy fighting in Allah's name is ordained for you, " you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which it is good, and that you like a thing which is bad for you. But fighting is ordained for Muslims.
Then we go to another verse, in the very same surat, in verse 244, "And the fight in the way of Allah (that is in surat number 2, verse 244), and know that Allah is all hearer, or knowing." Fight in the name of Allah? Well, in one of my books I said that, if God is almighty then he should fight for himself. In fact, one time I talked to a Muslim cleric in Egypt, and he said to me, "If I had the power, I would make all Egypt Muslim." I said, "But what mean?" He said, "By force, by sword. Fight in the name of Allah." And I looked at him and I said, "Listen, your god is so weak!" "What?" "Listen, let us use our brains for one second, if you will. Who will fight for whom? The weak will fight for the strong, or the strong will fight for the weak?" He said, "Of course that the strong will fight for the weak." I said, "Then, if God is almighty, He doesn't need you to fight for him. Leave him to fight for himself. He can do it! But to fight for him, this is an indication that god is weak. Forgive me, but this is my understanding." But this is what the Quran is saying.
Then we continue, and we will see, in surat(Al Taouba), that is surat number 9, and verse 29, you see, Allah is telling the Muslims to fight the Jews and the Christians in particular. Sometimes when I read the Quran I think, why didn't he insight the Muslims to fight against Bhuddists, Hindus? Why Jews and Christians? Whose wars? Well, we read in surat(Al Anfal), that is surat number 8, verse 63, no, I think I misplaced that. I'll go back to that surat (Al Taouba), surat number 29, verse 29, "fight against those who believe not in Allah; nor in the last day, nor forbid that which have been forbidden by Allah and his messenger Mohammed; and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth, Islam, among the people of the scripture." Who are the people of the scriptures? Jews and Christians. "you fight them until they pay the Gizia, the poll tax, the elevated tax, with willing submission and feel themselves subdued." This is very clear command for Muslims to go and fight Jews and Christians until they defeat them. And if the Christian and the Jew want to keep his religion, he should pay taxes to the Islamic government with his feeling of inferiority. I am a Christian but I am inferior. You, the Muslim, are superior. I am inferior. And you are protecting me, so I pay a poll tax, here is my tax. You buy your religion with taxes?
Well, I commented on that verse in one of my books, and I said, "You can exchange Islam with taxes." It is very plain. Pay taxes, keep your Jewish religion or Christian religion. You can exchange Islam with taxes, money with Islam. And this is here, kill, kill, kill. See, and in many other verses, the Quran is saying what is the punishment of those who are against Allah and his messenger, Mohammed: to be crucified, to cut their hands and their legs, or to be cast away from the society. What kind of religion is that? Killing, killing, killing. Killing is not an invention of fanatics. Killing is in the Quran, and I want to let, to get anybody who is really honest to himself, and tell him, "Tell me, don't talk about friendship." It is very interesting to notice one thing, that in one of the verses of the Quran it says, "Muslims, do not befriend Jews or Christians." Period. But it came of the invasion of Iraq, of Kuwait. The Muslims forgot all about that. And they came to the Christian country, to the US, and said, "Please, help us." But the Quran said don't befriend them, don't ask for their protection, don't go to them for help! How come that you are coming now to the US and England, and France, "Help us!" Because when it comes to politics, the Quran is forgotten, especially in the high places. And I want any Muslim to think about it seriously. This is not an attack on Islam, this is to open the minds and the eyes of the people to think. And I want people to think. God gave us brains to use it. And if I am not going to use my brain, I will give an account. If this is light I'd say it is light. If this is darkness, I'd say it is darkness. But to say that darkness is light and light is darkness, gray places, it is not that way. There is killing in the Quran, there is torture in the Quran; there is much pain for the people living under the Islamic society if they are Jews or Christians. They are! They are always looked at as second-class citizens. And they don't have the right to stand up and raise their head. They are inferior, and we are the superior, and that is it. I don't think that anybody who reads the Quran could deny what I have said. I mentioned the verse, verse after verse, after verse. But let me tell you, I didn't mention all the verse. There are a lot of verses that tell, that is telling the Muslim, "Go, torture, kill, go, fight, kill."